The religious get upset when questioned about there Holly beliefs.

Guess what!!! The resident Atheist doesn't give a crap. Send me to Hell. Give you're opinion's on the Hell bound Atheist.

Please do, If you have the balls.

Cheer up, lots of people that believe in God are going to hell too. :)

Totaly agreee :lol:

We have to stand up for what is right.

Sorry for the edit

LMFAO! That just made my day :D. And yeah I agree!

My best friend is Atheist. I try to tell her to listen to reason but she doesn't. We have arguments every now and then and seriously, she always leaves me with my mouth open. One of her friends is mormon and he popped up to her house one day with 2 of his mormon buddies to try and knock some sense into her but she stood her ground man. Left those mormon boys wishing they had never stopped by.

I respect people. I'm not big in Christianity but I do believe there's a God.

Respect, hey buddy, you arn't the only atheist around here. As many people around here can already guess, I'm very atheist.

And see, it's not so much the religion itself that I have such a problem with. If you wanna believe in some guy sitting in the clouds go ahead, be my guest. What I have such a big problem with is the people themselves. When the religious people themselves sit there and try to shove their belifes down my throut is when I start to get heated. That old "listen to reason" thing is nonsence. How can you say we're being unreasonable if we don't believe in God? Because to you, God is reason? Yeah, well thats their opinion. Because to me, they're being unreasonable. Religion itself is all just opinion. No one religion can ever be proven 100% correct. It will just never happen. Witch is why I will never believe, because it's something you can never be completely sure about. And I like being able to explain things and prove them. I'm to much of a scientist.

Sorry to anyone who is affended by atheism, but just like you have a right to believe, we have a right not to believe.

^ Very well said.

Thank you! I totally agree with that because most of my family are christians and when I speak about not believing in God they give me evils and look down upon me. I respect my families views so can't they respect mine?

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I know how you feel. My step mom is very religious and it causes a huge problem in my house. We always butt heads over it and I just think it's childish. I tell her all the time, "Look its great if you wanna believe, go right ahead. Just don't involve me in it. Leave me alone about it and I'll leave you alone about it too." but does she listen? No. Never. She'll just mumble things under her breath like "Selfish", "Ungreatful" or "Devil"! All towards me! And why? Because I don't ahve the same views as her? How is that right? It's just another example of religion being an excuse to be hateful and mean. And I'm so tired of being looked down on for not believing. It's stupid. <_<

^ I know man. I feel for ya my mom calls me some of those words your step mom calls you. Anytime I say anything about God my brother or mother disagrees on they say "Blasphemy" and my brother starts hitting me. I just think many christians are a bunch of hypocrits.

Shanae,. I have a major problem with this. you have every right to express you're opinion irregardless of you're Brothers opinions.

He has no right to hit you under any circumstances. He's not a real man. No real man hits a woman.

My reality.

What's the proper name for those who believe there is a higher power but no such thing that there should be a certain way to live your life? Agnostic? Because I'm one of those peoples. :)

Deism. The belief that a the Universe was created by a creator, who created the Universe,the laws of Physics,the laws of evolution. And then just backed off.Never to interfere again. Never to intervene in human matters. Never to appoint humans to speak for him.

Totally cool.

'Theism. The God who lives under you're bed who sees everything you are doing 24/7
The God' who will allow you to be vindictive, who will allow you to use the holly books that are so ambiguously written' you can read anything into them.
And therefore justify anything.

I personally dislike religion and lean more towards atheism. But I also believe that we're just mere dots in the grand scheme of things, and for people to assume that they know exactly what's going to happen or not happen when we die is just laughable, because we're really only such a small part of the universe and know way less than we think we do.

It's like if a bunch of fireflies were trapped in a foggy or painted jar so that they couldn't see what was outside, and they killed each other over their ideologies and were so sure about what was on the other side. I mean, it's so silly when you think of it like that. And reallly, we're no different.

Love it tamara.

Hah, thanks. I've just always had that image in my head every time I think about religion in general. I don't know how some people go about living their entire lives like that without every questioning it, you know? It blows my mind.

You have no reason to be mind blown tamara . It's called reality.

Haha, yeah I know. I just don't get how other people can feel differently. Oh well.

There are many different opinions, of many different people, lets wait for them.

I think a lot of people who believe in religion use it as reason to do stupid shit. But on the flipside I think a lot of people who are against religion use it as an easy target for blame regarding things that would still exist anyway because of ego. Because while religion is something taught, ego is something inherent. And every negative thing you could possibly name (greed, violence, war, hate) is rooted in ego.

Ironically, ego is the antithesis of the basis of any religion which celebrates a higher being. Ego is the exaltation of oneself. Many religions however are all about the exaltation of a higher power. That's why I have no problem with faith in God, rather, I have a problem with organized religion, because it loses sight of the purpose....which is to believe in and exalt that higher being instead of yourself.

I believe that having faith and confidence in yourself, being in touch with yourself, and valuing yourself is the key to happiness and enlightenment. But the exaltation of oneself, especially over others....is egotism. So you can have no religion and be filled with ego and do horrible things, just like you can have religion but forget the purpose and revert to egotism and do horrible things.

What I'm saying is, I truly believe that even if religion did not exist, there would still be just as much conflict in the world, if not more. Because religion is not the problem, it's just a crutch for some and a target for others. The true problem lies within us all. The true problem is, always has been, and unfortunately always will be....ego. And until we can master it, we don't stand a fecking chance.

That's very true. If it's not religion, it's money. If it's not money, it's race. I guess I've always felt that religion was something very irrational, and that's why I think it's one of the dumber reasons to do the stupid shit that you're talking about, you know? Obviously, there never is a good reason to do those things, although some might be a bit easier to understand than others.

And all of those things are traceable back to ego. When you hold onto money or are solely focused on obtaining it, that is greed. And greed is about excessive self-fulfillment, which is an ego thing. Having a problem with someone of another race even, is based on a fear that they somehow pose a threat to you in some way. And to believe that you are so self-important that someone else's mere existence threatens your happiness or fulfillment in some inexplicable way, again, is ego.

I'm telling you, every single negative thing you can name....you can find its root in ego. It's nuts.

me to ! 10 years and counting ! and feeling very good about it to ! yes Agnostic is the word :)
I grew up catholic but my views changed over the years but i have no hate for any form of religion !i even go to churh when a visit my mother :)

Definitely true. It's pretty much the only thing that has plagued the human race since our beginning.

All I am am asking, who is right? The Catholics?the Protestants ?The various sects within these Religions? Sunni Islam? Sharia Islam? Can anyone among these God sects come up with a non violent reason
why I Should worship there God of peace?

i forgot to add this to my post God is Great

All of their beliefs are purely fiction, in my opinion. No more valid than Greek Mythology, or any other religion from the ancient world that are no longer considered valid. Whatever the 'truth' is, I don't think humans have figured it out in any organized way like religion has outlined. It's just like your sig says. :) They're just one of those fireflies.

They worship a God of violence,Vengeance and Retribution.Prove otherwise hypocrites.

Of course I'm just a Hell bound Atheist

:lol:

A. Einstein

Ouch,those are fighting words :lol:

Hm, but if you don't believe in God then why does the idea of one anger you so? And on the flipside I could ask those who believe in God and hate those who don't why their non belief angers them so as well. Neither has anything to so with each other so why not just let each be instead of using inflammatory vocabulary and conflict-causing accusations? Why would you bother to criticize something that you don't believe in? And why do those who believe care if others don't? I say just let people be either way, and when we die....depending on what you believe, we'll either know the truth of who was right, cease to exist in which case it doesn't matter, or be reincarnated to just to argue again and never know the difference, lol.

this thread it's just ridiculous and offensive ! there is no talking here ! see ya my Atheist friends :angel:

I have nothing against Deism. Leigh. I despise Theism. When there God shoves his opinion up your ass. When they decide when to shove Gods opinion up your ass.

Deism and Theism. There is a difference.

Come on Chamalla Extract you're realy going to cop out this fast :lol:

Come on big guy your smarter than that.

It doesn't Leigh. It Never has and never will. I am not a Deist because I like proof, actual physical evidence. The lack of actual evidence, is what annoys me.

Why does God only show himself to certain people in certain religious organizations?The organizations who claim to have seen him? Why wont he just reveal himself to all humans? All humans everywhere? Has he ever?

I've never seen him have any of you?

Those are questions to ask the highly religious I dunno but it does still sound like you do have a problem with peoples' God, not simply their belief in one and the teachings that's all I was pointing out based on your own words. And it's fine if you do. But if you did then that wouldn't make sense if you didn't even believe in one which is what athiesm is. Also I do have something else to point out...by harshly demanding answers and so profusely questing their beliefs with malice as opposed to simple curiosity, in a way, it's like you are chastising them for their beliefs and/or forcing yours down their throat...which would be quite hypocritical wouldn't you say? I would, then again I'm just trying to find the balance and fairness in a topic that's built upon not just beliefs or the lack thereof but moreso negativity and harsh criticism on both sides. So I don't think seeking balance here will work out, unfortunately. I just want each side to state opinions without attack nor hypocrisy.

Anyway I asked you to stop double posting. Now you triple post, lol. Please stop ad use that edit button bro, thanks.

Sorry Leigh first posts from now on. Please help me on this.I'm not sure how I'm doing this.

Is It when I edit a Previous post?

I intend no malice to the beliefs of others. Unless they intend malice towards me. Honestly.

Love. Intended